Karna or Arjuna: Who was the real hero of Mahabharata? UNFAIR DEATH OF KARNA FROM BORI CRITICAL EDITION Its time to expose another misconception spreaded by Pandavas fanatics. karna was smuggling women from magadha into anga, False not a drop of truth read bori CE u are manipulating facts it's opposite of what you say which is written in bori CE. So Dharma was a clear winner and hope you support Dharma as well. I think it's mentioned in the Bhagavatham and possibly some puranas too. Satyaki vs Karna according to Bori Mahabharata. That includes Harivamsa and Srimad Bhagawatam and the Puranas. Not to mention the Pandavas themselves. As per pandavas fanatics, Arjuna didn’t cheated Karna as per BORI … Biased arguments. All authentic versions mention that Karna fought him and won.But i do not trust Bhagavatam as it is a fan-fiction written after Mahabharata. The same country that has been defeated by India in many wars. Karna was a cheater, he being a human used "maya" to fight, Badmouthing the punjabi's (people of the country of five rivers. So he could be an interpolated character, nothing is told about him and he is only mentioned to make Karna look good. Karna was involved in a conspiracy to kill the Drupad his daughter's Swayamvara. But, Bhishma, Kripa, Shalya and Dhritarashtra narrate about the failures of Karna in the Virata War. But the role of Karna’s in the Mahabharata is important all the same. Quite biased statements only a desperate person can give to look down upon such a great character like Karna. According to BORI CE, Lord Krishna blaming Karna for varnavrat conspiracy in section-90 of karna parv is an interpolation. Here is some more information about them -. The character we talk about the least is Karna - the ill-fated guy, the low-born king and the man who was accidentally cursed several times. Karna offering his wives to foot soldiers of his enemy's army. He is the spiritual son of the Vedic deity- Surya ("sun god") and princess Kunti (queen of the Pandavas), and thus a demigod of royal birth. According to BORI Critical Edition, Karna was weaponless, chariotless and heedless, enaged in extracting wheel of chariot when Arjuna aimed Karna from backside and Shiva shot arrow in order to rectify unarmed target of Arjuna. And don't forget that the text says both of them brought the maiden with "them" meaning karna also touched the maiden and must have offended her. In KMG there are two narratives which are used by Karna fans to prove that Karna had defeated Bhagadatta in his conquest.The first narrative is of the Vana Parva where the Digvijaya of Karna is described.But according to BORI the whole description of Digvijaya of Karna is an interpolation.BORI clearly removed that section where the Digvijaya of Karna is described. But if we read BORI CE carefully , we can see some important narrations of Karna's digvijaya by Bhimshma, Dhritharashtra, Narada etc in more than over 7 places. Karna seiged Rajapura and killed most of the warriors of the Kambhoja clan. Yudhisthir never lied in this life except for once, If Lord Krishna didn't save the mighty Arjuna from Nagastra by lowering the chariot, then you won't be debating also about the might of Karna. Karna did not conquer the world or earth. go read mahabharath.It was'nt even a naagastra. Is there any evidence that Karna feared kichakas, did not fight jarasandh , did not go for war during Pandava's exile. Everything else is fake. Fact check... Analyzing Karna's performance in the Kurukshetra war. Karna did not defeat any army called Narayani sena. Maybe he will once you tell him who you are. You asked Satyaki the blogger. This means in secrecy, and it is basically the same definition as before for the noun. they are equivalent to Mrityunjaya. Karna went to the roof of the world (the Himalayas) and conquered everyone who lived their. Karna is the adopted son of a charioteer (Adhiratha), who is of Suta or Souta caste. They were people who are skilled in warfare, they were mountaineers, and lived in the Himalayas protected by fortresses. DIGVIJAY OF KARNA – (BORI CE) This is the most awaited thread and finally posting on the demand of karnians. There you can shut all the mouths of Karna fans . This leads me to doubt that Karna even defeated Jarasandha then. According to BORI Critical Edition, Karna was weaponless, chariotless and heedless, enaged in extracting wheel of chariot when Arjuna aimed Karna from backside and Shiva shot arrow in order to rectify unarmed target of Arjuna 16. By the way, somewhere I have read that Krishna married a daughter of Nagnajit. After all you should realize that Mahabharata war was between Dharma and Adharma in which mighty warriors like BHISMA and Dronacharya who didn't used any divyastras were also defeated and sacrificed their lives(Even Arjuna didn't used his Divine weapons to avoid huge destruction on Earth but where Karna has used Vasavi shakti and Nagastra). While according to Romesh C. Dutt's translation, Arjuna simply defeated Duryodhana while dodging the other warriors. And he, after a hard conflict, brought the hero under subjection, and, O best of monarchs, made Drupada contribute silver and gold and gems, and also pay tribute. I'm surprised but all these are indeed true according to BORI.C.E.Check the references. - Karna and Arjuna are two valiant warriors, both important characters in the great Hindu epic, the … 40) According to BORI CE, Arjuna predicting that the wives of Karna are going to be widows and Shri Krishna will see them as widows is an interpolation . Abduction of a kalinga princess, using force on her family and the maiden because she did not want Duryodhana. Plz make it. Does it make any sense? In Drona Parva this is how they are described. They were kind of like the Indian version of mongols and Huns. Karna did not believe in using immoral ploys to defeat the Pandavas; he believed in battle. Karna was scared of Kichaka's brothers and he feared Kichaka. It's a big misconception that Arjuna killed Karna by cheating and by using unfair means but according to BORI CE which is the most authentic version of Vyasa Mahabharata, Arjuna killed Karna in a fair fight.All the references provided here are from Bibek Debroy translation of BORI CE According to BORI, Draupadi was the only woman in our history who married multiple men. Yes, no doubt Arjuna was a great warrior who could be defeated by only a few exceptional warriors. 39) According to BORI CE, Karna conquering his fatigue is an interpolation because Karna was tired before final battle and Arjuna was exceedingly tired still Karna failed to defeat him. Well it has been FIVE MONTHS that is the equivalent of OVER 150 DAYS. He tooks a nonsense oath towards unlawful Duryodhan and helped him for doing all sins. Rajapura was the capital of the Kamboja kingdom. So, Karna attacked Gandharas and not Gandharvas!!!! I know i have that username, but you never asked me to make an account on quora. "Karna was stronger" - Karna and Arjuna fought in 3 wars - first at Draupadi Swayamvara, then in Virata Parva, finally at Kurukshetra. Videha has a capital called Mithila. Kunti was granted the boon to bear a child with desired divine qualities from the gods without her knowledge, later upon … ". Watching tv shows and putting some irrelevant comments doesn't make any sense. Period. Since many people have doubts about Satyaki's capability's and use Bori Mahabharata as an excuse making statements like it removed all of Satyaki's achievements etc, i am going to make this post with proof and screenshots from the text of Bori … The Varnavrata episode was the doing of Duryodhana. This is the same country that was ruled by Janaka (the father of Sita from Ramayana). Karna conquered the whole world REALLY? Karna in Mahabharat is depicted as one of the most complex characters. People say that the critical edition (BORI) … In facts he was the greatest curse of the society. BORI says karna never fell unconscious. And then there are the Kauravas, the bad guys. Karna's Digvijaya according to BORI Critical Edition Mahabharata. Some say he conquered the world, others say he only conquered a few kingdoms, some say he conquered just second rate kings, others even say that Karna just defeated one king and then started to believe that he conquered the whole world. And what right did karna have to harm them (the pandavas) anyways? Most reporters (Shalya & Bhishma the only unbiased ones) agree that Karna only defeated 5 opponents. Go get some life kiddo, "You were present in the Kurukshetra and watching lord Sri Krishna lowering the chariot". Karna never defeated any Nishadas in his digvijay. It was not just a war between stars of your choice. A/C to BORI, the statement of vaisampayana in section-199 where he narrates about Yudhistira presenting an examples of 'Polyandry ' are an interpolations. He never protested Durdodhyan in all cheating. Being thus oppressed by a great army, they were frightened. Karna is among the most popular and complex characters in the Mahabharata, showing both nobility and nastiness over the course of the story. No "uchit uttar" lol. Now, the defeats of Karna according to the original Mahabharata: 1- By gandharvas: 'O king! Because the conquest of Afghanistan is a feat that has only been repeated by Alexander the Great & Genghis Khan. Screenshot (to prove that "Madra" is in modern-day Punjab): Satyaki's achievements in the Mahabharata. According to BORI Critical Edition, Karna never fell unconscious rather he was just stunned (amazed) Karna swooning episode is an interpolation as per BORI Critical Edition of mahabharata. That too when talking to Karna. Karna did not ever conquer Matsya kingdom. Although the term everyone may be an exaggeration made by Bhishma. The entire article is about "I think, I presume,....." Best example of weed damaging brain cells completely, Yudhisthir told Arjuna before the final war that Karna can conquer the three worlds with ease. He must be punished. Analysis: According to BORI Karna never defeated any Gandharva in his life. And beholding the son of Surya--Karna of the Suta tribe--like unto fire, or Soma, or Surya himself, resolved to shoot the mark, those foremost of bowmen--the sons of Pandu--regarded the mark as already shot and brought down upon the ground. धर्मो रक्षति रक्षितः ।. The evil sins of Karna according to Bori Critical Edition. But you didn't respond for 150 DAYS. According to Manu Smriti, the people who have a Kshatriya father and Brahmin mother are of Suta caste (charioteer class) MUST READ: Different names of Karna in Mahabharat | Karna is not his original name Duryodhana performed a sacrifice that only Vishnu ever performed. So what is the bravery in defeating them? Exactly like the advocates of persons like KASAAB OF PAKISTAN. Yeah right biased for the truth. According to BORI CE, hypocrite reporter vaisampayana has skipped the ‘Digvijay Conquest’ of Karna during live telecast of reporting. Yet, he displays great valor, honor and selfless offering. The Kamvojas lived in the hindu kush mountains (modern day Afghanistan). That Karna was racist towards Gandharas. Can you counter this argument??? Karna was the one of the culprit who insulted a woman in dice game where Pandavas were cheated by Durdodhyan and Sakuni. Some have in their blood to prove against mainstream facts. Analysis: Note that "all the kings" would include the princess's father. Karna (Sanskrit: कर्ण, IAST: Karṇa), also known as Vasusena, Anga-raja, and Radheya, is one of the major characters of the Hindu epic Mahābhārata. It's a big misconception that Arjuna killed Karna by cheating and by using unfair means but according to BORI CE which is the most authentic version of Vyasa Mahabharata, Arjuna killed Karna in a fair fight.All the references provided here are from Bibek Debroy translation of BORI CE So he did not avenge his ghosha yatra defeat. He never thought about what common people wants. He was a great servent but not great warrior. His only ambition was to prove himself as a greatest warrior. The evil sins of Karna according to Bori Critical ... Karna conspired to kill the Pandavas after the defeat of Drupada and before the burning of the lac house. The BORI scholars have concluded that he was not. Karna plotted to murder the Pandavas in their childhood, prior to the introduction of Kripa (by vaisampayana). Just removing the letter "v" was enough to change the identity of karna's victims. Karna did not fight any Gandharvas in his campaign. 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